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Hi Sophia! I saw this book on one of the lists I get and thought of you. Don't know if you would be interested but check out: " An Uncommon Friendship" by Bernat Rosner. I get many daily lists and will provide you what I find. An Uncommon Friendship: From Opposite Sides of the Holocaust

Hitler's Furies: German Women in the Nazi Killing Fields? That does look interesting.
The Rape of Europa: The Fate of Europe's Treasures in the Third Reich and the Second World War is good.
I've heard very good things about Evans' books, need to read those.
The Rape of Europa: The Fate of Europe's Treasures in the Third Reich and the Second World War is good.
I've heard very good things about Evans' books, need to read those.

Lately I've been reading Hitler's Navy: A Reference Guide to the Kriegsmarine 1935-1945 by Jak P Mallmann Showell
Classic video: Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will. I also like Eva Braun's Home Movies in 3 volumes

I know some others but, again, they haven't been translated AFAIK.

The Night of the Long Knives - Max Gallo
The Nazis - by George Bruce
Hitler's Young Tigers - Rupert Butler - about the Hitler Youth
Curse of the Death's Head - Rupert Butler, about the SS Totenkopf Division
Blitzkrieg - Len Deighton - from the rise of Hitler to the fall of Dunkirk
Linked with blitzkrieg try 'Panzer Leader' by General Heinz Guderian - he gives an insiders view of Hitler & the German High Command.
From a soldiers point of view try
In their shallow graves - Benno Zieser
The Forgotten Soldier - Guy Sajer
Rommel - Ronald Lewin
As Linda mentioned Pen & Sword have a huge number of books about WW2 and the Nazis - I've bought books from them over the years and funny enough they approached me and ended up publishing my own historical novel last year - my own work is not a WW 2 novel.

The Occult Reich

The Occult and the Third Reich: The Mystical Origins of Nazism and the Search for the Holy Grail

Zodiac And Swastika
Hitler, the Occult Messiah

One of my favorites:
The Spear of Destiny

and more recently read
Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler


I know some others but, again, they haven't been translated AFAIK."
Thanks for listing this book. I added it to my to read shelf.





No child should see such trauma. It's all in my book, memoir titled "The Chocolate Bar". A journey of life & war.... Author, Agathe von Kampen

I'm looking for books about the Third Reich. I'm currently reading William L. Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. So far ..."
Hitler's Willing Executioners by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen is a bit of a dense read. I believe it was part of his thesis for Harvard, or something like that. Nonetheless, it is a fascinating read offering an unique perspective. Definitely worth adding to any Third Reich history library.


It's been a while since I read Goldhagen's book, but that is the premise. Antisemitism had been such a part of the fabric of German lives from the 19th and into the 20th century that it wasn't hard for the average German person to believe that the Jews were a blight on their society. What Hitler and his cronies managed to do, however, was to get many of the ordinary citizens to either participate or at least tolerate him taking the solution to the ultimate conclusion. Of course, there are many books written, and understanding the many complex reasons as to why the holocaust took place, will always be up for debate. I'll have to seek out Ordinary Men for a differing perspective.


What an interesting question! I'm only just really getting into the subject of the Nazis and the Holocaust, but I've been studying genocides for a long time. I spent a good deal of time on the Rwanda genocide, for instance, as well as the Armenian genocide. I think I've mostly only talked about my reading to fellow history students so aside from the occasional wince, I haven't run into a lot of negative feedback. But then, I also teach at the high school level and often wonder what my students must think about my courses.

Well I have to admit I do find it a bit... interesting, at least if there is no personal connection. There seem to be a lot of Nazi literature written in English (at least when compared to Stalin/Soviet literature), not so much in other languages. Personally for me it's enough that I know about them but I don't want to read Holocaust novels, for example. But of course I am interested in Stalin's Purges, I guess mainly because he did such a good job killing my ethnic group.


I think sometimes something just sticks for someone. I have a friend who reads all about the war in Vietnam, though she has no personal connection. It just pushes her buttons for some reason. I've thought about why I'm so taken with genocide, though no one in my family was ever a victim or perpetrator (that I know of). I'm not sure. It's not out of voyeurism, though. I avoid photos and descriptions as much as I can as they make me sick. It's more that I believe sometimes the only justice you can give to people is to remember them.
I do think it's possible to read about the Holocaust because in a way, it's titillating. I've met people who are not so much sickened by horrors as entertained by them. Actually, if I'm going to be honest, I remember being thirteen and touring the tower of London and really enjoying looking at all the torture devices there, so I certainly went through a phase like that. But I also think a lot of people are fascinated by the nature of evil, and that's not really the same thing. To try to understand evil is to try to understand one aspect of humanity.

I can understand that, after reading Gone with the Wind I was interested in the American Civil War. (I was eleven.) And I am interested in all wars, mainly because they are like turning points in history. And of course torturing devices are interesting, luckily those in Tower haven't been used in recent years...
I guess my pet peeve with the interest in Holocaust is simply that Stalin's crimes don't get nearly as much attention. I can't read anything about the Nuremberg trials because I get so angry that one of the judges was from the Soviet Union, it just makes me sick, knowing all the women they raped and the civilians they killed, even children, the deportations... And then I read comments from history majors who hadn't even heard of Purges or the annexation of the Baltic countries and even claim that they haven't been known about until recently. Well we knew about them.
And calling Stalin's Terror/Purges as "the Holocaust"? What is that about? One even said that Soviets and Nazis can be used interchangeably, they were taught that they were the same thing? The troubling part was that she was American, so Stalin of course was her country's ally...

I think sometimes something just sticks for someone. I have a friend who reads a..."
I have no personal connection with genocide myself, but as you stated, I think some moments in history just capture our attention and that's that. I've just found that that interest can bring about judgement from people who do think you're finding some kind of thrill out of it. It's important to try and understand history, both the good and the bad.
For further reading, I'd suggest Albert Speer: His Battle with the Truth and The Healing Wound by Gitta Sereny. I have Into That Darkness, but have yet to read it. I find her work in this area interesting.
I also visited the Tower of London and took in the exhibits. That, and many of the things I've read in history books led me to believe that the author Bret Easton Ellis was unfairly judged when he released American Psycho, a fictional tale of a serial killer. People questioned how could he come up with such perverse and sick ways for his character to kill. They figured he must be a sicko. The real answer is, all he had to be was well read on the history of humankind. All the sickness, all the atrocities, well, they're there. Those of us drawn to trying to understand that darkness, we might be fighting a losing battle, but you're right about one thing, it's victims do deserve to be remembered, their suffering never forgotten.

I'm looking for books about the Third Reich. I'm currently reading William L. Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. So far ..."
I suggest anything by Laurence Rees, whose works you can read about here on GR. He is open-eyed.
Books mentioned in this topic
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany (other topics)Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland (other topics)
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany (other topics)
Berlin Diary: The Journal of a Foreign Correspondent 1934-1941 (other topics)
Hitler's First Lady: Standard Edition (other topics)
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Authors mentioned in this topic
William L. Shirer (other topics)Christopher R. Browning (other topics)
Christopher R. Browning (other topics)
William L. Shirer (other topics)
Malcolm Blair-Robinson (other topics)
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I'm looking for books about the Third Reich. I'm currently reading William L. Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. So far it's very focused on Hitler, and I'd like to eventually read some books that have a broader perspective. I may eventually read books on particularly people like Goebbels, but right now I'm more interested in learning about the Third Reich itself, as more of an overview. Anyone have suggestions?