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I just finished reading in booth’s “Secret History of the World” and in Manly P. Hall’s “Secret Teachings of all Ages” that there is evidence in scripture(orthodox and gnostic) that there were two Jesus children-one of the Nathan Line and one of the Solomon/David line. At the point before his teaching in the temple as a child, one of the Jesus children subsumed the others spirit and knowledge thus allowing him to speak as he did of his “fathers work”. It is also suggested that many renaissance artists depicted similar themes.

I’m sorry if this has been posted before; I could not find if so.

I’m curious to get everyone’s reaction to this and what this means from an esoteric point of view. Those 2 books do a decent job of expounding on the topic as well as the article I point to below, but it’s still baffling as this is the first I’ve heard of this in my studies of Esoterica/Gnosticism/Secret Doctrines.

Thanks!

Brian?

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B. wrote: "I just finished reading in booth’s “Secret History of the World” and in Manly P. Hall’s “Secret Teachings of all Ages” that there is evidence in scripture(orthodox and gnostic) that there were two ..."

I've certainly come across the idea of their being two Jesuses before, but I can't recall where I've read about it. Interesting stuff.

Harry wrote: "I've certainly come across the idea of their being two Jesuses before, but I can't recall where I've read about it. Interesting stuff. ..."

My best guess is Jesus is a composite character - an amalgamation of several real and/or fictional characters all rolled into one. I think you can feel that intuitively as you read the New Testament -- seems like a different guy at times.

I’ve definitely come to realize that Jesus is an amalgam-bacchus, krishna, Buddha,mithra. Etc.

Another character that I’ve never heard of was Jesus(Jeshua) bin Pandera...this person preached the exact message in Syria as Jesus and was stoned to death at 33 at the same time as Jesus purportedly was crucified . The pandera is an interesting touch because Bacchus is also associated with Panthers.

Also finding out about Apollonius of Tyana. Fascinating that this mans life and teaching closet mirror Jesus and he would have lived and taught at same time as when we are told Jesus lived.

Could biblical scholars purposefully changed his identity and added much of the amalgamation from eastern religions and mystery schools to create what we know of as Jesus Christ today? I think it’s most likely.

Throw in a bunch of stuff from Mithraism which was pretty big in the Roman Empire. From the Encyclopedia Britannica:

"The fraternal and democratic spirit of the first communities, and their humble origin; the identification of the object of adoration with light and the sun; the legends of the shepherds with their gifts and adoration, the flood, and the ark; the representation in art of the fiery chariot, the drawing of water from the rock; the use of bell and candle, holy water and the communion; the sanctification of Sunday and of the 25th of December; the insistence on moral conduct, the emphasis placed on abstinence and self-control; the doctrine of heaven and hell, of primitive revelation, of the mediation of the Logos emanating from the divine, the atoning sacrifice, the constant warfare between good and evil and the final triumph of the former, the immortality of the soul, the last judgment, the resurrection of the flesh and the fiery destruction of the universe--[these] are some of the resemblances which, whether real or only apparent, enabled Mithraism to prolong its resistance to Christianity,"

Jim, interesting stuff! I remember from college there being a bull slayed by Mithra as well which is similar to God sending his Son Jesus to be killed-I understand Mithra shares the bull with Sol-is this where Christian communion ritual comes from?

I think he lived a very human life and died a very human death.
While there are few textual accounts of what transpired in Mithraic ceremonies, it is acknowledged that the secretive cult worshiped the power of the sun as personified by Sol and Mithras respectively. Interestingly Mithraism was also known as the religion of initiates united by the ‘divine handshake’.
Some historians would even speculate that early Christianity emerged from the ancient Mystery religions; in particular, Mithraism. However, it is more plausible to conclude that the representations of the sun and solar deities in early Christian art and literature are only highlighting the overwhelming power of the Christian God of the New Testament. For example, much has been made of situating the birth of Jesus around the winter solstice. The Catholic Church has dated the birth of Jesus at 25 December because this date is nine months after his death and resurrection. Church doctrine holds to the idea that Jesus Christ died on the same day of the year that he was conceived. However, some historians have argued that 25 December is used because it aligns with the birth of the Mithraic cult or to the winter solstice, in tribute to the Roman state-sanctioned sun God Sol Invictus. The Catholic Church directly opposes this view. As Cardinal Ratzinger says,

"The claim used to be made that December 25 developed in opposition to the Mithras myth, or as a Christian response to the cult of the unconquered sun promoted by Roman emperors in the third century in their efforts to establish a new imperial religion. However, these old theories can no longer be sustained. The decisive factor was the connection of creation and cross of creation and Christ’s conception."
That said, doesn't the date of Easter change each year according to changes in the Lunar calendar? ie on the first Sunday after the Full Moon occurring after the vernal equinox ?

Awesome information Tony! I always look forward to all of yall’s insights. Tony, your two books are sitting on my bedside table waiting to be read first thing this year.

B. wrote: "Awesome information Tony! I always look forward to all of yall’s insights. Tony, your two books are sitting on my bedside table waiting to be read first thing this year."

You will love them B. Great reads, both books!

B. wrote: "Awesome information Tony! I always look forward to all of yall’s insights. Tony, your two books are sitting on my bedside table waiting to be read first thing this year."

Thanks B !